Curse

midnight caretaker · Mar 19, 2006, 07:24 PM // 19:24

State of the Guild wars Economy

I have tons of great items that I am completely unable to sell. I have recently sold items the merchant that 1 month ago would have been flying out of my inventory with just one post. (example req 8 longsword +15%dmg ench 10k then down to 1k, +15 dmg always hammer 10k then down to 1k plus about 10 others). I spammed items everywhere at rediculously low prices and was unable to sell, hence the good old merchant got some great deals. I was wondering if everyone else had this problem??? Should I only keep items that are perfect with rare skins and lowest req possible????? I am sick of wasting time selling.

Another point I have is the dis 1 selling thing. Have you guys been to LA dis 1 lately? Things are being spammed so fast that by the time ur post is up you have to scrolll back just to make sure it got up there. Also It is all WTS or wtb Perfect rare skin items. Whats the point???? I posted this "can anyone see this? I will give 1k to the first person to open trade with me", after about 2 minutes no came to get their 1k so I posted again but this time at 10k still nothing. I did this a few times and was trying to give away 25k with no takers. The whole reason for this experiment was to see if I should even waste time in LA dis 1 and now im convinced that no one is paying any attention there at all except to what they post to selll themselves.

Finally, I had an idea about GW adding a merch that would buy items at decent prices and resell with a markup of course (this is alrady done with materials and runes, why not items??). This way people could get items they want and get rid of items they dont want and not have to waste time spamming that they are selling or trying to buy at a realistic price. Antoher thing this would help with would be the economy. They would not have to shut the game down for over 8 hours when they screw up prices at the rune and rare items merch. The economy would be able to be controlled. Anyways sorry Im a bad speller an my grammer sucks as well. If you are reading this part here thanks for sticking around for my rant and rave. Please post your thoughts as well, Thanks.

Asrial · Mar 19, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Here's my thoughts...

There's nothing anyone 'needs' to buy that requires agonizing over merchant prices.

Get yourself 50k and you can easily buy Droknar's armor and creature skins for a collector's weapon. There's the only 'need' in the game. In fact, you can pretty much do anything with sub-par armor and weaponry so you don't even 'need' that stuff.

There's no real economy in Guild Wars because the items being bought have no functionality.

Ascalon Chariot · Mar 19, 2006, 07:41 PM // 19:41

Yeah well..I try and sell an almost perfect chaos axe...no one answers..im selling for like 70k....but yeah. I guess people in guild wars dont like my stuff ;_;

Str0b0 · Mar 19, 2006, 07:42 PM // 19:42

The economy went south as soon as the gold farmers started. It works just like a real economy. If billions of US dollars suddenly got dumped on the market our currency buying power would plummet. Same thing with gold. Gold now no longer has the same buying power. As for item devaluation blame that on FotM. Everytime someone comes up with a new build then the equipment for that build becomes mroe valuable and the old FotM stuff plummets. I'd also go so far as to say that over farming for profit by the small minority that farms just to sell has caused prices to plummet. Same principle as the gold. The Mona Lisa is priceless but if all the sudden someone found about a thousand copies painted by Da Vinci that he had just squirrled away then the Mona Lisa would plummet in value. Requirement 8 weapons have been farmed and horded to the point where even the greatest mods barely fetch anything now.

Pevil Lihatuh · Mar 19, 2006, 07:46 PM // 19:46

you posted one of your problems anyway. Trade spam

If people stuck to trade channels it wouldn't be so bad. But instead people spam local, others keep local off unless they need a group and people who might have thought "ooh that looks good" won't see your item. That and as stated, items aren't necessary to win at this game.

I think there's an auction house in the works, hopefully that should help out some, and if not, try using the gwg auctions, its worked for me. I never have and never will resort to in-game trading; it just isn't worth the time, effort and annoyance

Alcazanar · Mar 19, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

i really think that you should try in
droknars forge or in ascalon if there
is still no buyers try international

and final: never sell a perfect item for below 10k

warren_kn · Mar 19, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24

2 things:

Maybe the majority of people have their "must have" weapons now. Theres no longer a big market for gold items, perfect or otherwise.

Also, maybe some people (me included) are waiting until factions comes out and using their money to get a jump start.

LifeInfusion · Mar 19, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50

Three Words:
Factions is coming

= people are waiting for new skins

King Kong · Mar 19, 2006, 09:03 PM // 21:03

I have all chats off bar guild, everyone i know does as well! does your eyes in all that writing flying about

Matsumi · Mar 19, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40

I just don't see the point in trying to sell things all the time, the only thing I might perk up to is a +enchant mod or a +energy or skill mod that I could use on my newly aquired crystal desert weapon I got for killing some things, taking their droppings and giving them to the collector, then applying it to my customized staff or weapon. Too bad you can't really make the weapon itself more unique looking though, the dyes just don't really do much. Instead it just looks like I have a stick for a staff or a purple skull staff or something.

Haggard · Mar 19, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02

the state of the economy is appalling at best. for example, look at the sorrows furnace greens, not a lot of people farm there anymore, so the items are becoming ever harder to get, yet the prices are still going down! in my opinion the best way to solve that particular issue would be a Green Weapon Trader

Andy_M · Mar 19, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35

I have never bought an item from a complete stranger. Guildies - yes. I won't be getting anything via a different route until the auction house system is implemented (to be honest it should have been in from the start). In my opinion the trade system (such as it is) is lazy at best and worst case smacks of amateurism by the programmers. It's funny how the crappest Korean open Betas (ok Knight Online

) have a half decent auction system when we don't in this game. Believe me thats the only good thing about that game..

Apologies for the mini-rant but the trade 'system' in GW beggars belief. In my opinion of course.

Jakerius · Mar 19, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

What would be cool is if there was some sort of tool in GW to parse all the text in chat, for certain terms. Say you wanted to buy a mursaat skinned bow. You just type that into a box, and click Parse. Only phrases that contain those words would you see. That would be much better.

Even with an auction house, this would be good. An auction house isn't going to stop the spam completely.

Dralspire · Mar 19, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

That was an interesting post. Just like all of you, we have recognized the problems associated with trading in the game. Because of that, we have launched the Guild Wars Guru auction system at www.guildwarsguru.com/auction.

While we are working hard to make the system even better, I trust that you will find we have already developed a high quality system and built a solid group of reputable users that rely on this system for their trading needs. Give it a try ...

RobotMULE · Mar 20, 2006, 12:05 AM // 00:05

Are you sure you werent in offline mode?

I dont think I'd have trouble getting someone to buy a 15% req8 enchanted sword for 10k.. or get someone to take 25k for free or whatever...

Granted, demand (and prices) are down, but I didnt think that severely though.

midnight caretaker · Mar 20, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Yes I was online I was even talking to a guildy about what I was doing at the time. I was unable to sell that sword for 1k even. I spammed and spammed and spammed. Still nothing. We got favor (america) at a unusual time today so I was in uw and what do I get again, another req 8 +15 enchanted longsword. I will try selling or maybe giving away to a new player this time. I dont mind doing that occasionally consideringhow badly I was treated when I first started by other players. Sure this is my first on-line game and I was probably the biggest noob ever but come on the way some people act is rediculous. Once again sorry for the grammer and spelling. There should be 2 gw holidays as well 1) Be nice to a noob day and 2) Tank appreciation day

Str0b0 · Mar 20, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggard

the state of the economy is appalling at best. for example, look at the sorrows furnace greens, not a lot of people farm there anymore, so the items are becoming ever harder to get, yet the prices are still going down! in my opinion the best way to solve that particular issue would be a Green Weapon Trader

Well allow me to explain to you why that is. Green items, when they were new, were great things, but now they are like comparing a Cadillac to a Bentley. Greens are the new middle class item,relatively easy to get, always perfect mods. The thing of it is the smarter players and the players that have the disposable income have figured out you can get the same mods on golds plus other beneficial mods. So no more massive prices for green items simply because they are no longer the cream of the crop. The new wore off and people woke up.

Riceboi · Mar 20, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Green Weapons didn't exactly help the price of gold weapons. =(

Str0b0 · Mar 20, 2006, 02:22 AM // 02:22

Only gold weapons that are worthwhile. They certainly hurt the price of others though because people now saw that max damage and gold wasn't all they needed. People became more selective and more informed.

Jas D · Mar 20, 2006, 03:14 AM // 03:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh

you posted one of your problems anyway. Trade spam

If people stuck to trade channels it wouldn't be so bad. But instead people spam local, others keep local off unless they need a group and people who might have thought "ooh that looks good" won't see your item. That and as stated, items aren't necessary to win at this game.

That's exactly what I do. I always have it off unless I absolutely need something, which is rare.